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ask okay well what about the
 

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ask okay well what about the
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neurobiology of sexual orientation in
 

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neurobiology of sexual orientation in
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women vastly smaller literature far far
 

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women vastly smaller literature far far
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less studied what has been showed so far
 

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less studied what has been showed so far
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are only two endpoints one is the same
 

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are only two endpoints one is the same
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deal with the fourth to Second finger
 

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deal with the fourth to Second finger
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ratio on the average gay women have the
 

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ratio on the average gay women have the
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ratio more typical of straight men than
 

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ratio more typical of straight men than
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straight women the other thing that's
 

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straight women the other thing that's
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been shown is the same Auto acoustic
 

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been shown is the same Auto acoustic
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reflex thingy going on there final realm
 

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reflex thingy going on there final realm
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of neurobiology rather than issues of
 

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of neurobiology rather than issues of
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gay versus straight what is the
 

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gay versus straight what is the
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neurobiology of
 

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neurobiology of
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transsexuality and that used to be
 

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transsexuality and that used to be
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considered to be purely a domain of
 

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considered to be purely a domain of
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Psychopathology if being gay used to be
 

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a certifiable psychiatric disorder up
 

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a certifiable psychiatric disorder up
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until the early 1970s the American
 

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until the early 1970s the American
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Psychiatric association in their
 

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textbook the diagnostic statistical
 

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manual you could be psychiatrically
 

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manual you could be psychiatrically
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certified as ill a psychiatric disorder
 

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certified as ill a psychiatric disorder
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was being homosexual or lesbian and then
 

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was being homosexual or lesbian and then
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in what had to have been one of the more
 

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in what had to have been one of the more
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all-time blowout committee meetings ever
 

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all-time blowout committee meetings ever
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they decided that no actually it's not a
 

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they decided that no actually it's not a
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psychiatric disorder and overnight about
 

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psychiatric disorder and overnight about
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40 million Americans were cured of a
 

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psychiatric disease the notion of
 

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psychiatric disease the notion of
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transsexuality as a psychiatric disorder
 

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transsexuality as a psychiatric disorder
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has had much much longer shelf life
 

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has had much much longer shelf life
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what's the neurobiology of that to dat
 

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what's the neurobiology of that to dat
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there have been a handful of studies and
 

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there have been a handful of studies and
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they show essentially the same thing
 

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they show essentially the same thing
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really really interesting another region
 

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really really interesting another region
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of the brain that shows a sex difference
 

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of the brain that shows a sex difference
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in its average size don't even worry
 

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in its average size don't even worry
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about the name of this it's called the
 

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about the name of this it's called the
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bed nucleus of the stria terminalis it's
 

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bed nucleus of the stria terminalis it's
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where the amydala begins to send its
 

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where the amydala begins to send its
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projection into the hypothalamus another
 

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projection into the hypothalamus another
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one to those gender differences there's
 

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one to those gender differences there's
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one type of neuron in there with a
 

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one type of neuron in there with a
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certain type of
 

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neurotransmitter where very very
 

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neurotransmitter where very very
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reliably it is about twice the size in
 

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reliably it is about twice the size in
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males than in females sufficiently so
 

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males than in females sufficiently so
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that even in human brains you could
 

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that even in human brains you could
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pretty confidently determine the sex of
 

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pretty confidently determine the sex of
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somebody by seeing the number of these
 

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somebody by seeing the number of these
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neurons you'll see I'm not even saying
 

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neurons you'll see I'm not even saying
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the name of the neurot transmitter it's
 

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the name of the neurot transmitter it's
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irrelevant it's just another one of
 

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irrelevant it's just another one of
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those differences a dimorphism in a
 

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those differences a dimorphism in a
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region of the brain a really really
 

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region of the brain a really really
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reliable one and this was a study done
 

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reliable one and this was a study done
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by some superb neuroanatomists looking
 

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by some superb neuroanatomists looking
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transsexuals and what they showed was
 

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transsexuals and what they showed was
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very interesting which was very very
 

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very interesting which was very very
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reliably and a very powerful effect what
 

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reliably and a very powerful effect what
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you would see in their large large
 

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you would see in their large large
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sample size of transsexuals brains
 

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postmortem was people would have this
 

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postmortem was people would have this
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part of the brain the size not of their
 

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part of the brain the size not of their
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sex that they were born with but rather
 

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sex that they were born with but rather
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of the sex they insisted they always
 

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of the sex they insisted they always
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were wow immediate questions one must
 

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were wow immediate questions one must
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ask okay well maybe this is due to the
 

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ask okay well maybe this is due to the
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fact that when people change gender
 

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fact that when people change gender
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transsexual ual procedures there's a
 

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transsexual ual procedures there's a
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whole lot of hormones involved and maybe
 

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whole lot of hormones involved and maybe
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that's doing something to this part of
 

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that's doing something to this part of
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the brain critical control that they had
 

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the brain critical control that they had
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was this was looking both at
 

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was this was looking both at
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transsexuals who had made gender changes
 

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transsexuals who had made gender changes
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and those who went to their deathbed
 

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and those who went to their deathbed
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saying this is not the sex that I am I
 

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saying this is not the sex that I am I
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got the wrong body but never made the
 

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got the wrong body but never made the
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change it wasn't a function of having
 

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change it wasn't a function of having
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actually gone through the transition and
 

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actually gone through the transition and
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the endocrine manipulations with it
 

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the endocrine manipulations with it
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another control they had which was
 

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another control they had which was
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looking at men who would get a certain
 

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looking at men who would get a certain
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type of testicular cancer where they
 

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type of testicular cancer where they
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would have to be treated with certain
 

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feminizing hormones in other words very
 

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feminizing hormones in other words very
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similar to some of the endocine
 

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treatments of male to female
 

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transgendered individuals and postmortem
 

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you didn't see the changes there it has
 

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you didn't see the changes there it has
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nothing to do with the hormones it had
 

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nothing to do with the hormones it had
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to do with the person insisting from day
 

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to do with the person insisting from day
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one that they got the wrong body and
 

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one that they got the wrong body and
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this was a landmark study fabulously
 

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this was a landmark study fabulously
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well done and controlled and replicated
 

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well done and controlled and replicated
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once since then showing that what
 

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once since then showing that what
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transexualism used to be thought of is
 

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that people who think that they're a
 

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different gender than they actually are
 

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different gender than they actually are
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what this study suggests is what
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transsexual is about is people who got
 

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the wrong gendered body and these are
 

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the wrong gendered body and these are
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people who are chromosomally of one sex
 

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people who are chromosomally of one sex
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in terms of their gonads they're of that
 

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in terms of their gonads they're of that
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sex in terms of their hormones they're
 

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sex in terms of their hormones they're
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of that sex in terms of their genitalia
 

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of that sex in terms of their genitalia
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and their secondary sexual
 

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and their secondary sexual
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characteristics they are of that sex but
 

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characteristics they are of that sex but
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they are insisting that's not who I
 

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they are insisting that's not who I
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really am this part of the brain agrees
 

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really am this part of the brain agrees
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them also very interestingly that study
 

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them also very interestingly that study
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was done by the same Dutch scientists
 

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was done by the same Dutch scientists
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who did this one again this is very
 

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who did this one again this is very
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complex Terrain in terms of what these
 

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complex Terrain in terms of what these
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things wind up implicating interestingly
 

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things wind up implicating interestingly
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that study was published right around
 

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that study was published right around
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the time that the city of San Francisco
 

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the time that the city of San Francisco
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did something very cool which was for
 

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did something very cool which was for
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City and employees now medical insurance
 

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City and employees now medical insurance
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will cover transgender operations
 

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will cover transgender operations
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however there's no evidence that the
 

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however there's no evidence that the
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Obscure endocrine Journal published at
 

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Obscure endocrine Journal published at
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AIA or something did that like the
 

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AIA or something did that like the
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afternoon before you know the San
 

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afternoon before you know the San
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Francisco Commissioners had their
 

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Francisco Commissioners had their
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meeting on that one but nonetheless this
 

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meeting on that one but nonetheless this
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is a subject with all sorts of Realms of
 

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is a subject with all sorts of Realms of
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implications one additional study about
 

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implications one additional study about
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transsexualism okay how many of you know
 

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transsexualism okay how many of you know
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about Phantom limb
 

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about Phantom limb
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syndrome okay you are a guy with a penis
 

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syndrome okay you are a guy with a penis
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and you get a certain type of penile
 

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and you get a certain type of penile
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cancer and what's often done is your
 

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cancer and what's often done is your
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penis is excised it is cut off and about
 

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penis is excised it is cut off and about
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60% of men who have had to have their
 

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60% of men who have had to have their
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penises removed because of cancer there
 

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penises removed because of cancer there
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wind up getting Fant P Phantom penol
 

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wind up getting Fant P Phantom penol
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which I don't want to know
 

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which I don't want to know
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about what you see though is when you
 

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about what you see though is when you
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take transgendered individuals who go
 

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take transgendered individuals who go
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from male to female in other words as
 

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from male to female in other words as
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part of it have having their penises
 

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part of it have having their penises
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removed 0% rate of penile Phantom
 

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sensation suggestion being that there is
 

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sensation suggestion being that there is
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something much more normal in that case
 

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something much more normal in that case
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than when a penis is being removed for
 

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than when a penis is being removed for
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cancer a whole new area of research very
 

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cancer a whole new area of research very
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novel very challenging okay so this has
 

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novel very challenging okay so this has
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given us a sense now of this bucket and
 

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given us a sense now of this bucket and
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we are now ready to move on to what in
 

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we are now ready to move on to what in
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the environment releases some of these
 

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the environment releases some of these
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fixed action patterns sexual behavior
 

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fixed action patterns sexual behavior
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what in the environment is doing this or
 

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what in the environment is doing this or
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that to the medial preoptic area or the
 

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that to the medial preoptic area or the
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amydala or vasopress receptor levels or
 

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amydala or vasopress receptor levels or
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any such thing what are the sensory
 

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any such thing what are the sensory
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