I Changed My Mind about Error-Correcting Debate, Misogyny and More: Updates from a Former Student of David Deutsch — LessWrong

Comment by TristanTrim - I like this post. A few thoughts:

 * I read "Change" by Damon Centola recently. They wrote about some of their sociology work demonstrating that politics is indeed the mind killer, but also that centralized "fireworks" social networks for communication prevent spread of ideas. Peer to peer "fishing net" social networks do much better at spreading ideas and changing minds, but only if there is not a politically charged context.
 * I suspect you have already heard of it, but I really like This Video Will Make You Angry for describing a memetic phenomena preventing discourse across disagreeing groups. A much longer treatment of the idea is found in The Toxoplasma Of Rage.
 * I know you lampshade this towards the end of the post, but I dislike "argument" and "debate" as contexts for discussing discourse. As implied in Centola's book, more minds are changed by discourse than by debate. I know it's obtuse to use a phrase like "collaborative truth seeking" but it would be nice if there were more people standing up for the "collaborative truth seeking" vibes.
 * Speaking of standing up for vibes, thank you for standing up for the "people should be allowed to not take strong stances on things they know nothing about" and "not every person needs to be informed about every issue" vibes. I feel they are required as we are moving into the global hivemind era of civilization.
   * Not knowing things that are important to know is painful. Disinformation campaigns are effective. This is awful, but the solution is not to pretend we can know things we cannot, but to try to find solutions to make disinformation less effective and collaborative truth seeking more effective.
 * Social Dark Matter has some similar ideas I think are valuable about the dynamics we can expect surrounding taboos.
 * About PUA themes, I liked "Models: Attract Women Through Honesty" by Mark Manson. I think it approaches the problem of men wanting to attract women with a fairly healthy perspective. I think it